it is not about chuck hagel even though they have issues. as i said before in the program and said all this week, i don't know how good the head of dod, chuck hagel, would be. >> i can tell you my husband and in the marine corps and watched the hearings. it was abysmal. you can say it is the -- >> no, the hearings -- >> horrible. you expect senators to just jump onboard because the president nominated somebody. he was awful. >> why -- if he was awful then why not just give him a vote? if he was awful, give him a vote. if americans support the second amendment and don't like gun control, put it up for a vote. that's basic logic. if you are right, put it up for a vote. if you are about where the american people are on guns then put it up for vote. >> this whole thing about gosh, it has been overplayed. no, it hasn't been overplayed. we still don't have a solution. we still haven't gotten to the bottom of it. we don't know why we didn't have security in place. we don't know where -- >> the world is a terrible and unpredictable place. >> the pre